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on dot size number one thing that i found in dot size is bigger and brighter is better called that the three bs i just made that up right bigger and brighter is better and thats not entirely the case for example if you went from uh lets say a six minute dot to a 66 minute dot i wouldnt say thats the case but what i found is you know this zig optic i believe this has to be about a one and a half maybe a two minute dot its a very small dot im not even sure if i can you know line it up with this with the screen for yeah there you can see it its not a very large dot now this particular setup by the way is true uh uh backup iron sights in what we would call the middle of the window so if you look at where those iron sights are compared to the dot right theyre very much in the middle of window those iron sights actually on this gun when i shoot this gun i very much pick up the iron sights when im picking up the dot so the dot and the iron sights are very uh close to each other thi