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hi folks im leslie you may know me from my cat avatar in the twitter or discord uh well after i submit this talk i kind of realized its a very poor name its kind of like marginally better than iii not much better so what do i mean by required field for designated mutual initializers there are no collusion whatsoever but it happens my talk is very related to the previous talk that im also talking about the vulcan api but most generally a new generation of c apis often pass parameters as structures it is quite a nice idiom because you can you can mimic the named or optional uh parameters with this pattern however the sixth way of doing stuff has is shortcoming you cant force people to use brace initializations in this way we just create an object and then boom we have on the undefined behavior because some field is not initialized also there is not always the right default for example in the vocab api there is always the s-type field for every great info structure and it is an inne