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foreign thank you for joining us were going to spend about 30 minutes in a Fireside style chat um Ive wanted to start uh first by uh thanking you for writing this book I got a cop my copy right here um as a computer scientist and an engineer and also an engineering leader there were tons of insights that I got uh out of this book so uh I just wanted to say thank you its a its a great read and I learned so much from it already um I want to start off you know one of the one of the things that you talk about a fair bit in the book uh is the the Dora metric so I wanted to start off a little bit on this theme of like measuring um efficiency for software teams um and starting with the door metrics and you you know you its pretty clear from the book and youre writing that you hold uh the work done by that team in pretty high regard uh I have the sense that I get is that the metrics are you know on track uh something that is um uh forward progress in terms of the way that we measure uh