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hi this is Fred with quality one engravers Im going to show you a simple logo to import Im gonna go to import WMA logo and its a PDF now Ive already got PDF selected but if if you were on all files and folders you need to go down and make sure that you do select the exact extension that you want and its gonna merge and I click on import Ill just click on a PDF there may be multiple pages in this case there isnt theres just one so heres when its imported now if this were a graphic that I can vectorize I can double click on it but it goes to this group viewer so I know like I cant do it with this so Im gonna hold down the control key and Im going to just bring it down here now another thing with engrave lab I have learned that by having a logo be too small you will you will lose the detail of the logo so here I have it right here just a little bit larger so that it you know pick up the small areas and Im gonna go under transform and Im gonna render to bitmap and under the