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um so bob we recently released a product called cloaked search and i think theres some kind of misunderstandings about it and one of the ones that ive heard is like i dont understand what this encrypted search thing is like i can already encrypt the index using you know elasticsearch or whatever um hows what we do different well i think almost always when people think about um that kind of encryption its like well its safe because its encrypted they theyre thinking about and theyre being told that the service thats holding the data is encrypting it it is on the disk and so its encryption at rest and we like to say bad things about encryption at rest as a security approach because it doesnt really protect very much at all so we want to talk about ways that we can actually secure the data that are more meaningful and but that still allow you to do what you need to do and i think you know searching on encrypted data is a topic thats been researched for a long time and its v