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hey on the on detonate show weamp;#39;re going to be looking at tracing dotnet applications in production come check it out [Applause] hey welcome to another episode of the on.net show today we will be talking about tracing dotnet applications with sera sera thanks for coming on the show and how about you introduce yourself before we get into the topic absolutely my pleasure and thanks for having me rich so Iamp;#39;m sorry Artie Iamp;#39;m coworker of rich I work on the.net VM team and my guard area of interest is diagnostics and observability so how do you like ascertain whatamp;#39;s going on in your applications runtime how do you get more information and how do you you know go ahead and solve it how do you normally end up caring about this is it you know do some developers use this during their development workflow or is it only when your application is crashing in production what what would be the cases where you would care about observability as you say I mean there