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welcome all I mean such an inspiring talk by Dave kind of feels kind of weird just you know go go down from the back into the level of structure definition and validation and fire messaging but anyway well I have to do it because this is where it all starts so my name is ava Grammer and mostly most of the things that have to do with validation in the fire specification Iamp;#39;ve been involved with and also I am the maintainer of the dotnet API and also the validation bits of the dotnet API so Iamp;#39;m gonna try and share some knowledge about validation in fire and especially I want to I want actually take some away some of the black magic behind validation I mean Iamp;#39;m Iamp;#39;m not going to show you some kind of use of tooling while I will to do validation but I want to do is what is the link between you creating profiles in a tool like Forge or youamp;#39;re creating IGS and data contracts and then running learning a validation tool based on that and so Iamp;#39;m gon