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Gino welcome to the do nothing podcast thank you rob are you excited I am excited you love doing and I love doing interviews Im curious about that why what is it about interviews that have kind of kept you on the sidelines its a great question I am an introvert I am a little bit of a mad scientist I prefer to kind of be behind the scenes so it surprises people that Im an introvert because I do speak from time to time and Im certainly in front of my clients doing my work and so whenever Im teaching you cant shut me up but otherwise Id rather be in the lab creating when did you realize you are an introvert I was I would say 20 I was 25 years old after taking the myers-briggs and I said wow so you took the profiling and you theres something that clicked with you at that moment was there something leading up to that before where you know felt like because sometimes introverts dont like to be in sort of crowded places or around a lot of people they need their space yeah for sure re