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all right and so therefore in our wps we specify that um uh its a a single v group complete joint penetration single weld single weld because its welded from one side only root opening quarter inch uh root phase none it is pedaled to a sharp edge groove angle 45 and normally in a wps youll see a range in this case were not giving it a range because simply because when we were looking at clause 4 and we went to the figures of clause 4 and we looked at the welder qualification test it did not give us a range it just simply said quarter inch root opening and then 45 degree groove angle yeah all right so therefore normally a wps will have a range because and you know we dont live in a perfect world and the fit up personnel uh are gonna require to have some leeway uh were testing the welder in a um um with no back gouging were leaving the were gonna uh were actually gonna remove the backing to inspect the route uh but uh were not gonna back out uh uh for in other words a welder is