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hi and welcome back to the second video in our helpers say yes webinar centered around electronic evidence and ppe in this video we are going to myself and my colleague john are going to explain about electronic evidence going through the renumeration regulations some case law and the assessment process so back in 2011 so prior to the 3rd of october 2011 it was all relatively simple if you had material that had been served in the electronic format and that was used materially in your case it was not subject to payment as pages of prosecution evidence however a supplemental claim could be made under the special preparation provisions as you know special preparation is claimed on an hourly rates basis moving on to to move with the more digital okay in order to update our legislation and move to a more digital era because more things were being served on disk or usb the regulations were changed on the 3rd of october 2011 and they were changed to say that if you have material that has been