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foreign [Music] this is Carter Wetzel with another episode of into the enter chain and today we have Christian uh one of the the lead developers of shape protocol uh one of the head architects of shade land uh a lot of this protocols success is on the back of of Christian and we have the honor of having having an Imam today to be able to talk about land to be able to talk about silk in depth so Christian welcome welcome to the show how you doing pretty good uh glad to be here Im excited to talk about this stuff Im always excited to talk about this stuff yeah so you know for for a lot of people out there like uh lending is one of the key Primitives in crypto so Id love for you to kind of walk through in your mind the history of lending protocols and crypto um what what have been some of their greatest successes and and some of their their greatest failures yeah sure uh so Lending I mean lending in crypto obviously has its roots in traditional Finance right the the the concept of len