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[Music] welcome to our next episode of the foss north pod this time around we will be talking about contributors license agreement uh and weve actually got a lawyer in the show this time around we we always keep on talking about it so welcome to the show katarina perhaps you can say some short words about yourself im im a lawyer by training im admitted to the bar in germany um i came to the field also the to the general topic of open source and open content licensing by working as the international director for creative commons um i think that was like 10 15 years ago like a really long time ago and yeah that was basically my entry point to this whole world of licensing standardized public licensing schemes and so on and so forth and um after serving uh as a director for creative commons for a couple of years i worked on exactly this topic contributor agreement as part of my work that i did for the shuttleworth foundation and what we build is you know a set of predefined standardi