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David Shands: Yeah, we didnt, we didnt really promote speakers for like, a couple of weeks from the from the actual event. And Joe was like, Yo, we gotta promote speakers my own we want to, I want to promote community. I want to promote information. Not a person. Nicky Saunders: Not too long ago, you had a huge event. Huge down in Miami. Right, right. And I before then was virtual then before then was like, I believe the very first one, hence where the podcast came from. But how many people were in this last? This last event real quick? David Shands: We had about 2200, I believe about 20 to 2300. People Nicky Saunders: 22? What was the first one? David Shands: 550. Nicky Saunders: So the Okay, so thank you. They just need those stats real quick. So 550 to over 2k. Right. What, how do people even get to that status? Because some people are going to look at, oh, he did the event, he got to over 2k I could do this too. And people are not understanding those those first couple events, e