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okay this is the this is the piece of MDF that we just used in the rubbing out segment and Iamp;#39;m showing you this in different different places Iamp;#39;m gonna show it to you here again what I did I took the same piece and I sanded it this end of it just with some 600 grit sandpaper and if this is a water-based finish and all Iamp;#39;m doing and Iamp;#39;ve explained this is Iamp;#39;m just going to take some death like her any good any good lacquer will do and Iamp;#39;ve explained us that this is a very very it doesnamp;#39;t have a lot of solace to it meaning thereamp;#39;s got a lot lacquer in there itamp;#39;s mostly just a lot of good it does a good interact and what it kind of does is just kind of flows three flows it and thatamp;#39;s a little bit of our finish to it and we just kind of oftentimes refer to it as finishing the finish now this is a gloss is it going to give you as high a sheen as that rub finish we did no itamp;#39;s not but it could be pretty c