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all right and so therefore in our wps we specify that um uh itamp;#39;s a a single v group complete joint penetration single weld single weld because itamp;#39;s welded from one side only root opening quarter inch uh root phase none it is pedaled to a sharp edge groove angle 45 and normally in a wps youamp;#39;ll see a range in this case weamp;#39;re not giving it a range because simply because when we were looking at clause 4 and we went to the figures of clause 4 and we looked at the welder qualification test it did not give us a range it just simply said quarter inch root opening and then 45 degree groove angle yeah all right so therefore normally a wps will have a range because and you know we donamp;#39;t live in a perfect world and the fit up personnel uh are gonna require to have some leeway uh weamp;#39;re testing the welder in a um um with no back gouging weamp;#39;re leaving the weamp;#39;re gonna uh weamp;#39;re actually gonna remove the backing to inspect the route