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hello my friends mark cunningham at grace property management so when a prospective owner client calls your office and they start talking to you and theyre interviewing you and youre interviewing them and youre trying to decide you guys should work together and suddenly they say something like well now i see that you charge a ten percent management fee would you be willing to come down on that to nine percent theyre trying to negotiate and theres a lot of conversation in our industry the pm industry around pms around this idea of should you negotiate with an owner client around your property management agreement around your pma thats what im talking about here should you negotiate the terms of your management agreement and some property managers say absolutely not the terms are set i do not negotiate okay its fine other pms say well gosh its case specific if theyve got a whole bunch of properties then yes maybe im willing to drop a fee or if they want a particular clause ed