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[Music] welcome this is much more minhas with global village space today im joined by mr essen zafar who is the ceo of engro energy engro energy is one of pakistans largest energy companies and runs the gadarbor plant as well as a partner in the sindh anger coal mining company essence up thank you so much for giving me time today thank you najma thanks for having me on this discussion essen id like to start off by asking you that um angry energy spun off from angro corporation now angular corporation of course has been very well known in the fertilizer and chemical sector what made you go towards energy actually there were few problems in the power sector at that time and these were very core problems the first problem was that our energy cost was very high the second issue was that there was at that time there was a deficit so there was a difference between supply and demand so that that was one of the issue the other one was high cost of electricity and the third thing was relianc