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probably a full fifty percent of applications we receive are not you know quite in line with what were looking for and um and theyre easy to say no to there are two things that i commonly see one of them is over over promising you know there are a lot of i think because of the high competition that we see in the business there is this desire to just be outstanding and be grand making statements such as um you know were the only organization thats doing this and not backing that up with with any data or proof um i think really um you know especially if we know of another organization thats doing it it becomes you know problematic for your application we will often approach organizations and ask them to submit grants and we might approach eight organizations and planning to get five grants and its amazing the number of times that even though we encourage the organization to pick up the phone and call us they will write the whole grant proposal without ever really having taken advan