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foreign [Music] welcome back to small caps ladies and gentlemen My Name is Kerry Stevenson and today sit back get your pen and paper ready because Im talking with Clive Thompson hes a retired wealth manager hes sitting over there in Switzerland nice and cold Im sitting down here on the Gold Coast bit warmer and uh Im really delighted playoff has had many many years in the investing universe and so today I just wanted to ask him a few questions about what he sees going on in the world of finance and potentially what he sees going forward Clive welcome to small caps great to see you thank you so much for your time its lovely to meet you Kerry well this is the first time so Ill say gogsy fatai oh that was impressive say that again gungshi fatsai Im sure my pronunciation is awful uh but that is happy to hear the cheddys or maybe its Cantonese well brilliant okay I cant say it so yes it is the Lunar New Year the year of the rabbit so lets go down a few rabbit holes then uh Clive