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[Music] conversations podcast [Music] hello everyone and welcome to conversations podcast and were coming at you from laundry land here in Melbourne my name is fatty crackers and Im the head of training at all graduates interpreting and translating services if you like our podcast please dont forget to hit the like button and subscribe to receive notifications for new podcast episodes and free webinars before I introduce my guest today I just want to quickly talk about our topic so a few years ago ngati introduced two new credentials the certified specials Health interpreter and the certified specialist legal interpreter credentials today I have with me four guests and were going to be talking about these new specialist credentials let me start by introducing todays very esteemed guests so first up I have aurelishin the certification policy and development manager from Nati hi early hi everyone and uh youre no stranger to this podcast are you not anymore not anymore very good and