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to break that ice a little bit i always ask so did we miss the mark completely but itamp;#39;s a great way to start things out on a positive note because even if you bomb it the clientamp;#39;s going to be like oh yeah this is a step forward you know another thing that we ask a lot is hey how do you think joe dirt would react to these logos itamp;#39;s taking the client out of hey what do i like i like this i like that i donamp;#39;t like this youamp;#39;re asking them to dig into the empathetic side and really put themselves in their users shoes and this is how you overcome that personal preference one good question to ask is did we take a step in the right direction to solve and then you remind them of the pavement point all right hereamp;#39;s another question thatamp;#39;s great is there one direction that we can just cross off the board right now thereamp;#39;s always going to be one option that they like the best and one option that they donamp;#39;t like at all or like