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[Music] hello everybody im excited to chat today about using a known donor whether its a known sperm donor or a known egg donor and kind of the laws and legalities and all that you know behind using that so i brought on an expert because i dont know any about anything about that so introduce yourself please hi my name is stephanie brinkley i am a fertility and family law attorney in charleston south carolina im also the vice chair of the american bar associations art committee which stands for assisted reproduction technology and i am a fellow with the american academy of adoption attorneys and excuse me we changed our name academy of adoption and assisted reproduction attorneys its always the mouthful but short for um shortened by quad a quad there we go so the everybodys no one knows what quad a is um but its pretty cool its pretty important when youre you know if youre in it you know but no for jokes aside i didnt know about it until january of this year um you know whe