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[Music] all right so today we have wade carpenter with carpenter and company cpas he is a cpa that does remote construction and bookkeeping with job costing done right and we have stephen brown with mcdaniel whitley inc he is a surety bond an insurance specialist minimizing your risk and maximizing your bonding capacity and im rob williams with irongate entrepreneurial support systems im a profit strategist i drive profits for bonded contractors welcome guys and today were talking about the joint ventures and the advantages of doing joint ventures and wade would you like to start well yeah i mean you know actually when we were talking about this i i found theres a lot of different reasons people may want to do a joint venture and there are you know i kind of break them down into maybe four or five different main topics or reasons you know you kind of have you know sometimes you a smaller contractor doesnt have the financial strength or the bonding capacity that stephen will proba