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my question is for mr. Buffett and Im hoping you might be able to tell us a little bit more about your interactions with the Board of Directors and the types of ideas and idea exchange and perhaps a model for how you believe a board of directors is supposed to function with management thank you yeah I would say that most writers and most most shareholders probably have a little bit of a distorted version of leestown most corporations large corporations have operated over the years usually for a long time I would say that directors generally were sort of potted plants I mean you you sat there and the the management had its agenda and didnt really want input on major matters and Charlie and I can certainly testify the fact that we had that great lack of success even when were the largest shareholder of a company and in terms of talking about the things that really count I mean that somebody spends their whole lifetime 25 30 years rising to the position of CEO you know they want to be