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[Music] okay yall lets talk about link state underlay control planes real fast and see what we can get through here and uh just figure out a little bit about data center fabrics using link state at first i want to start with this which link state protocol should i use for my data center underlay if im going to use a link state protocol as the underlay protocol i obviously have two choices ospf and is to is now im going to say that i generally prefer is to is for this role rather than ospf im going to give you my reasons but im not going to say that using ospf is wrong im just going to give you my reasons for using is to is and you can take it or leave it its entirely up to you what you choose to do with your underlay if you decide to do an underlay using a link state protocol first of all isis packet formats the way it builds its packets and the way that it floods tends to be just a bit more efficient than ospf in many cases there was a time when ospf was much more efficient th