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for me I think one really Id have to say terrifically rewarding times as a cinematographer came to me three years ago I was invited to join the American Society of Cinematographers that isnt something that most people you dont you know I havent heard of that you dont even know what that is but you have seen on big movies where it will say a name and then it says ASC after their name its a very prestigious organization that I was invited to attend or two its a very prestigious organization that I was invited to join and i can tell you I dont deserve it I snuck in that door that door open to crack and I snuck in like a rat and Im not giving it back there are amazing amazing people that are in that organization and just make me look like a student the student that I am but the Im not giving it back but just to be a part of that and have my name listed its like the top theres only about 320 that are in it its just that makes me cry every time I think that you know because that