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[Music] hey there Claudia st. John with affinity HR group we are your HR partner and resource today I want to talk about a difficult subject none of us like it but occasionally in our work lives we have to terminate employees I wanted to give you some tips on how to do this in the most compassionate way and the way thats probably going to be the most successful for you and for the employee so that you dont get into legal troubles down the road the most important thing to understand about terminating employee is that folks who get who lose their jobs who who go through that work transition for them they go through a complete state of mourning just as if they had lost a loved one and the stages of grief as you may know cycle through denial to depression to anger to acceptance and you can go back and forth and back and forth of those through those those emotions regularly the one thing we do know is that when employees dont see a termination coming when its a surprise to them its a s