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all right Carrie is with us in Houston Texas hi Carrie welcome to the Dave Ramsey show hi Dave how are you better than I deserve how are you Im definitely better than I deserve however Im trying to settle a debt a credit card debt and Ive given them an offer you know told them this is all I have figure leave it and they declined it they came back it was $6,500 and they came back and said the lowest will take is 10,000 and the balance is what it started off around 24 to 25,000 now its up to 29 with all the interest and fees mm-hmm and how long has it been have been since youve really about a year okay oh yeah yeah and so youre offering them about 20 cents on the dollar and theyre coming back and saying about 35 cents on the dollar is all theyll do okay well you dont have $10,000 right I well I saved I have nine thousand I was trying to kind of lowball them you know just to see if I listened to you all the time oh and okay when did I decline your offer this is just this week oka