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hi everybody welcome back to my Channel today we have a really special guest Gary Yuen who is a product manager at Mega and we actually worked together for a little bit while we were both on Facebook groups um and actually shared the same manager for two whole months today well be talking a little bit about his journey his time at meta as well as how he navigated getting four offers after the layoffs so welcome Gary thanks so much for being here yeah thanks for having me Im really excited to be chatting with you about this topic yes yes so I want to start off by giving the audience a little bit of an overview of your background so can you tell us how you started your career as well as what made you decide to go into product management yeah yeah so I started my career as a user experience designer so I actually studied human computer interaction in grad school and you know I really liked designing products for people and I really like to dig into you know why people motivate uh why pe