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so Ed what did you find so weamp;#39;re putting in a doorway here so we we cut open this area so I could cut it out cleanly with a saw for the door opening and weamp;#39;ve had this foam buried in the ground for itamp;#39;s just about 17 years now or 18 years going on 18 years and this foam weighs about this is about 15 lb or so this piece of foam and itamp;#39;s just soaking wet you can actually see on the concrete here too that itamp;#39;s just it just wet it just soaked up all the moisture and this is this is all pure sand here that this is back filled with this part was buried below gray you can see the grade line right across here and uh what happened is this soaked up water this whole thing weighs almost 9 lb when we put it on the scale uh weamp;#39;re at 8.92 lb I can see water oozing out of the cut right behind the laid as I make it all right so now Iamp;#39;ve got my piece 2T by 1T so 2 square ft and weamp;#39;ll put it on the scale and see what it weighs so there you