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[Music] and now from beyond our Dimension this is the Jeff Morrow podcast heres Jeff my guest is Dr Edith Ubuntu Chan graduate of Harvard University in Applied Mathematics who left a career in the software industry to become a Chinese medicine healer inspired by a series of mystical Awakening experiences she devoted her life to exploring the frontiers of our human possibilities Dr Edith thank you for joining me today and welcome thank you Jeff thank you so much for having me and to the audience thank you for sharing this time and this energy together with us Im a huge fan of the show and its a big honor to be here thank you Dr Edith how did you go from being a mathematician in a software company to becoming a Chinese medical healer you know the story actually started when I was four years old and probably like a lot of your audience were interested in your show and these interesting topics because maybe on a deep level when we were kids we saw beyond the physical reality and when I