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why donamp;#39;t you take us back if you could to when you first got the call from Sam and you first had a chance to look at the books because I think a lot of people are still trying to understand exactly what happened here how much of this was about commingling how much of this was about terrible marking of the books what did you see I think um I got a call from Sam 24 48 hours after I made a tweet and then he wanted to talk so at the beginning I thought he would just wanted to you know do a buyout on the OTC deal to buy out the FTD s we had and then he wanted actually a buyout of the entire firm uh of that entire FTX platform and then um but then we got our team on it it was pretty clear pretty soon that this you know um this misappropriation of user funds um the user funds are gone um and um at that point um itamp;#39;s clearly that he lied to his users his investors his VC investors um his employees at that point I thought I couldnamp;#39;t like whatever data thatamp;#39;s in