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all right thank you so I would like to talk about secure messaging and in particular Id like to talk about end-to-end encrypted secure messaging with all the whiz-bang flash secure ratcheting stuff that weve seen a couple years ago from signals to party ratchet so the idea here is to have strong security guarantees in what we think really is a practical context okay why do you want group messaging and the answer is that if you actually think about the messaging you do day to day on your phones group messaging is not a sort of special feature compared to one to one on your phones in whatsapp or allo or slack or whatever group messaging is just as native a feature with one-to-one messaging and so we want everything you have for one-to-one we would like to have for group as well one interesting piece of context in this setting in the messaging world unlike say TLS or SSH you cant assume that anybody youre talking to is online and this is because people will be connected to hotel Wi-F