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so lets say I took this this box here edit the extrusion and because this is a class on curves probably want to delete that square stuff and you know I want to do a simple circle lets say so here it is and put it right there for those of you that have ever worked in the family editor before show of hands how many of you are yeah I hope so oh good I was really hoping I should ask that first could be like no were all newbies oops okay this is a little more advanced well whats the general rule that we say about the family editor then right you you know its bones muscle skin and you always dimension references and then you attach your geometry to references right thats our general rule of thumb right so it sound weird to anybody okay good hopefully youve all heard that before well sometimes you got to break the rules and when youre flexing curves this is one of those times so there is no way to go a line and lock to the edge of a circle right so write it right off the bat simple c