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[Music] and the reason im asking im focusing on text messages because i had an interesting client that came in and said well what if i delete the text messages and there thats all we have and we only have the contract that we signed but the text messages you know so what what do you caution clients when they start trying to suggest things that you and i both know are not the best approach to things well obviously first of all thats a thats a big ethical problem um and you know no ethical attorney is ever going to advise their clients to destroy anything um but there are also practical ramifications uh for that even if their the potential clients ethics are are less than upstanding when it comes to them because for example there are ways to recover text messages from the uh the service provider for example so somebody could send a subpoena under certain circumstances to get that information directly from you know a verizon or whoever happens to be the carrier and if it is discovere