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[Music] foreign dear listeners my name is Steve prida on the management blueprint podcast and todays uh guest is Michael episcop a co-ceo of origin Investments a private real estate manager that builds buys and lands to multi-family real estate projects in fast growing markets throughout the US Michael welcome to the show Steve thanks for having me back uh its great to have you its great to have you and um you know since you last spoke things have changed I was wondering if if the introduction was even appropriate in a private real estate manager or now you are a public real estate manager I dont know what it is but tell me a little bit about your story how did you get into a starting origin Investments and you know whats been your entrepreneurial Journey yeah well first of all the introduction um still it does um is correct um were a private real estate manager we do build buy and lend to multi-family real estate in Sun Belt states and Ill Ill take you back um I guess I mean n