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so when youre milling lumber sometimes the logs arent perfect youve got knots youve got twists youve got bends youve got to determine what length is usable and sometimes you even have splits right down the middle see how we deal with that [Applause] so now weve got a white oak behind us the long its a 19 foot log and it calculates at about 3 200 pounds normally i would take the whole thing down if i wanted all 19 feet but it turns out we have some specialty cuts we need for roofing so im going to take that down to about 14 and a half feet and i do that right up there so that it takes some of the weight off i can get a couple hundred pounds off of the log before i drop it down and i i like to do that a lot just for safety and its easier to handle too so what were gonna do is uh im gonna cut the center section because ive got a flare on the end and a big knot on that end so im going to cut those out of there drop me down to i think 13 and a half or 14 and a half i have to