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i now call mr carl stokes please after a tragedy like grenfell its hard to think the tower even had a fire risk assessor i swear by almighty god but that was carl stokess job and he admitted to the inquiry he never had any training in checking cladding on residential buildings did it cover external facades on residential buildings yes i would have thought not why is that because residential buildings the external facades not covered in the fire safety order 72 people died at grenfell in a building thats been described as a death trap the hearing heard how mr stokes exaggerated his experience in doing fire risk assessments on buildings so the statement i have experience of undertaking risk assessments of the common parts of high-rise residential tower blocks uh was incorrect you are correct i undertook audits of those buildings yeah so why did you say i have experience of undertaking risk assessments uh when that was incorrect looking at it in hindsight and the way youve just explai