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hey its justin goff and im here with copy accelerator member robin burke i want to bring robin on because he actually started copywriting during the pandemic so during 2020 and recently just had his first ten thousand dollar month which is a pretty meteoric rise uh in the world of copywriting to go from just learning about copywriting to hitting 10k uh in basically i dont know two years maybe a little less than two years so kind of um hes doing great so i wanted to bring him on to chat about that interesting thing so you and i were talking a little bit before the call you have a very i would say interesting past of everything youve been in between being in a punk band being an addiction counselor working at a wine shop and then fell into copywriting lets kind of start with lets start with kind of how you got where you were before copywriting i think people would be really interested in hearing how that how that went sure um well thanks thanks a million for having me on first of