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what should an applicant do if they cant identify anyone who knows them well enough to write a strong letter of recommendation apply the following year and then what should they do in the interim in that in that year get to know a faculty member or two quite well how do you do that work with a faculty member on his or her research you know that its important too you put in extra hours you find out what how you could be helpful to this faculty member um though daisy has considerable skills in many ways i got to know her because when she was a masters degree student she let me know that she really wanted to be helpful to some of the projects i was working on um what so ive heard from professors you know dont ask dont ask me for a recommendation if i only know you from one class like thats not im not going to write you a good enough um is there other exceptions to that do you agree with that well no because it could be one small class in which youve been outstanding in case im g