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the old saying that if you live by the sword you die by the sword the people make heavily concentrated bets and what I would consider high risk equities make a lot of money when they work and and you know people like Ackman are famous for their winners but the only thing is that they dont always work in Vegas they have an old saying the more you bet the more you win when you win and you cant argue with that you know its absolutely true that the more you bet on your winners the more you win but but they dont say in Vegas is that and the more you lose when you lose and thats the thats what happens with concentrated positions and and you know this this year and last year in valiant that his mothers son medicine and so forth weve had a chance to see what happens and so I think that you know when I was a kid one of the first things I learned in this business was the saying that there are old investors and there are bold investors but there arent that many old bold investors and peo