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i was just uh talking about the model if you started your first sketch and you made maybe you make this a rectangle and uh you put a full round fillet on it or you could draw this in itamp;#39;s up to you guys i donamp;#39;t normally do that make sure that you if you put this plane right in the middle like if you project your geometry itamp;#39;s like this you can make this um you can make a circle right here and make that right in the you know two inches offset up and then make this but having a plane right in the middle for this sketch for this point right here or the bottom one when you sketch this bolt circle on there youamp;#39;ll have a plane to project so itamp;#39;s up to you how you model it i just think itamp;#39;s easier that way how would you do it otherwise if you had this sketch if you if you didnamp;#39;t make that you know right in the middle you could draw a line straight up make that vertical draw your bolt circle on here and put a point at the intersection of