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[Music] we have electronic mail from listener Charles nasal in South Africa Pastor John I love listening to podcast each day if Im correct the Bible mentions the phrase the book of life about 14 times and quite a few of those passages mentioned getting blotted out of the book of life how does this not mean losing your salvation what would you say pastor John to Charles when it comes to the doctrine of eternal security or perseverance of the saints we need to speak with precision and I think its not quite precise to say as Charles does in quite a few of the scriptures it mentions you can be blotted out of the book of life I I dont think it ever says you can be blotted out at least not in the sense that sometimes God does it it says we will be blotted out if we fail to meet certain conditions now whether that ever happens or in Gods sovereignty can happen is another question I dont think so and let me try to show why the book of Revelation is the book that refers to this most often