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yeah but I see the participants coming in hello welcome thank you so much everybody for joining us today Im Lisa from the library and today I have David Carr with me at once again to do an Ethics presentation on terminating representation of problem clients and again thank you so much for joining us before we get started I have just a couple of housekeeping items to talk about one is that we will be issuing CLE certificates today to those of you verified to have a 10 have attended and shown up in Zoom and Ill be sending those out by email this afternoon so look for that in your email another thing I wanted to mention is that this is an interactive presentation hopefully there will be some time toward the end for David to get to some of your questions if you do have questions we ask that you use the Q a function here in Zoom to post those youll see a q a icon on your screen with two speech bubbles and that is what where you can click and type in your questions and you can do that eit