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hi im bob jordan author of how they did it billion dollar insights from the heart of america im really pleased to be speaking today with michael alter michael is the ceo of sure payroll hes been the ceo for a number of years he was not the founder but he is the person that hit the home run in terms of taking sure payroll from a small company to something much larger and then seeing through the sale to paychecks which just completed im especially pleased to be speaking with michael about the subject of how startups can become a whole lot bigger how founders bring in professionals to keep on growing lets listen michael uh thank you so much for being here okay congratulations on the sale of sure payroll the paychecks for 115 million dollars thank you thats a home run anybodys book and for starters if you could just tell us about the sale process absolutely so i think theres a couple pieces to that process right theres the actual process once you go through it and then theres so