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oh geez okay thank you very much john um okay so go up here to source add source okay so professional genealogists have to use these templates these templates can come in handy um but they are not required for family historians um the issue with the templates that you need to be aware of and professional genealogists need to be aware of also is that there are some fields that will not sink to ancestry because ancestry doesnt have those fields available they dump that extra data into the person notes on ancestry so thats important to note so i dont use them because this basic template this is the basic template that we talked about in the group this has everything i need for all of my sources when i create an additional source so every source has to have a title so it needs to be not the person not the not the details that are in the citation it needs to be something like something a little bit more general so that you if you wind up with more records from the same source the same b