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good morning everybody great to be here in henderson nevada my name is jim kelsey im president of kw engineering and were a what i would call a small energy engineering firm consulting engineers based in oakland california with about 50 employees i say that thats thats small because of a lot of our competitors who do energy audits and retro commissioning are you know multinational firms uh on the other hand for a firm that uh focuses on energy efficiency and consulting around rcx and commissioning of buildings were kind of big a lot of the energy audit world in particular has been small and fragmented and thats kind of part of what i want to talk to you about about this morning so ive personally been doing energy audits about 25 years so this is a subject thats very near and dear to my heart anybody chilly in here i had to go get like a cup of tea because its anybody got a thermometer on them oh come on a bunch of a bunch of commissioning engineers no thermometers in the crowd