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ill let everyone type while you do that im going to go ahead and flip over to the next slide which is pdf via indesign okay any questions on the frame maker piece theres a lot of stuff there all right we will have some time at the end so we can come back to that if we need to indesign produces just beautiful typography theres some really nice stuff going on in there the text looks good if youre a font snob you can probably tell the difference on a piece of paper between something that was done in indesign versus something that was done in frame maker versus something that was you know god forbid laid out in word it is lovely you can tweak it to adjust the pagination you can control your page breaks you can do what you need to do there the downside to indesign is that there is no default out of the box support for dita or not really even for xml theres sort of support for xml but certainly not for dita extensive configuration is required to get the data content into indesign and a