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all right lets get this rolling so todays guest guys is um Mr Matt Hoople Matt happel the creator of sloppy mechanics YouTube channel um saliva mechanics Facebook group and kind of just the guy that has probably convinced more people to get into the ls platform than I would say anybody would you would you agree with that I mean youve had so many people get into the ls platform because of you but my my one thing I always wonder about with your group is do you worry about the line of sloppy versus safety yes its always been uh I guess it was a poor choice of words when we you know when I came up with it and it definitely people jump in there and like the whole is this sloppy enough thing is is very grading its hard to look at that stuff and then yeah at some point it is a it is what do you want to say its like a who can be more unsafe its a race to having no safety or doing the stupidest thing you can and thats obviously its not how it started it was like cost effective so a lot