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[Music] bgp link state it is not new its been kicking around since oh 2015 or so and on the surface of it you might think why why are we carrying link state information in bgp thats not what bgp is for and yeah youre not the only one with an automatic reaction like that but the reality of bgp ls has more nuance to it we might jokingly call bgp the kitchen sink of routing protocols but the engineering choices that were made were made for a reason remember everythings a trade-off to educate us on what bgpls is and why it exists is honest gredler hes heavily involved in the deepest corners of the networking industry as a cto and founder of startup rt bric offering cloud native routing software for telcos and in the past he has also chaired the ietf isis working group and was a distinguished engineer at juniper networks and he holds some routing patents and hes a published office you get the idea honest knows whats going on when it comes to bgpls and he volunteered to share some of